Welcome! This is Jessica Ortner and our time together is dedicated to feeling good within all of life's complexities.
We'll be going on a wandering path exploring topics like spirituality, productivity, and personal fulfillment.
Because happiness is not a destination, it's an adventure.
So welcome to Adventures in Happiness!
Hello and welcome to episode 30. Thank you for joining us. This episode is unlike any episode
I've ever done before. We have a medical medium. So let me, before you have your doubts about this
sir, you turn this off if you happen to not be a fan of mediums or believe in them. Have an open
mind with this guy. Anthony William is the New York Times bestselling author of medical medium,
secrets behind chronic and mystery illness and how to finally heal. Before deciding to have him
on the podcast, I had a session with him. I was dealing with some reoccurring health stuff. I had
a lot of fatigue and he blew my mind in 30 minutes. He gave me a session and he put me on a protocol
that's made a huge difference. I have just heard time and time again people working with him who've
had such amazing results. What I like about his work is that even if you can't get a session with
him, he shares enough tools to really make a difference. He's not a healer, so he's not someone
who'll like touch you and you fall over and you are healed. He is about helping people find the
diagnosis, what is really going on, and then giving them a protocol. So he shares some tips that we all
can use to help improve our health. So again, keep an open mind with this guy. I really like him. I
think he's on to something. He's also very smart and articulate, especially when talking about
different health remedies. So yeah, check it out. I'm excited about this. I think he's awesome and
I think you're really going to like this episode. This episode is sponsored by The Tapping Solution.
If you are new to my work with tapping, check it out, thetappingsolution.com. And if you enjoy this,
spread it, especially if you have any friends or family members that are struggling with
autoimmune disease or a chronic illness, there are some gems in this interview that can help.
And I think listening to Anthony Williams, I think it's worth it. I think he has a really
great perspective. Enjoy it. It's going to blow your mind. This guy, I can't even,
I can't even, I can't even believe it, but I do. Enjoy the episode.
Let me begin by welcoming you. Welcome, Anthony. Thanks for being with us.
Hey, it's great to be here. It's an honor. I'm really excited.
Well, you are the first medium on my show.
No way.
Yes, I am.
So I've been reading your book, and we're going to be diving deep into chronic illness and what you call the mystery illnesses,
you know, the things where people are getting diagnosed, but they still are just as confused.
But before we do that, we have to hear your story for everyone who's new.
Can we start off with what happened when you were four years old?
Absolutely.
I mean, I woke up one morning, heard a voice perfectly clear.
I mean, the same thing like when you're talking to someone and they hear you or someone's talking to you and you hear them.
And, you know, with your actual ear, like with your ears, this isn't like a voice inside your head or, you know, a lot of mediums they channel and they get information that just arrives.
And this is different.
This is different.
That's a different kind of gift.
This is also a different kind of gift.
This is you hear it perfectly clear.
And it actually is real in real time, meaning that you could actually physically block it with your hand and the whole bit.
So the voice started talking to me at age four.
And I got out of bed, scared and went to the window, looked around, couldn't find anybody, see anybody.
I went downstairs and down the steps of the family.
And I was spooked all day by it because I was it shocked me.
And then that night at the dinner table, we were all there, the whole family.
That voice came back, in fact, and not just came back, but a person appeared behind my grandmother and waved me over and talked to me, telling me to come over and then told me to pronounce that grandma has lung cancer.
And I had to pronounce it.
It gave me a few, you know, a few tries and I finally got it out.
And then forks and knives dropped in their own plates and everybody was like scuttling because it was a shocker.
And and so after that, you know, my family brought her in to, you know, to talk to the doctor about my diagnosis or my discovery.
And the doctor did a chest X-ray and she had lung cancer.
In fact, one of the worst cases he's ever seen.
So and she didn't exhibit any symptoms or anything.
But so that's how it started.
But from there on, it never stopped.
And so I've been forced to do this my whole life without having the ability to want to do anything else.
I mean, even if I wanted to do something else, I wasn't allowed to.
So my family supported me, thank God, because the gift was there all the time.
And it was also doing that all the time for anyone.
It didn't matter who it was.
It didn't matter if the postman was dropping something off.
I'd know what was going on.
And then I ended up doing a lot of readings at a young age.
And I remember this one time in elementary school where a child next to me, spirit said, I call this voice spirit, spirit said that this child had meningitis.
So I told the teacher.
The teacher got upset, interviewed the child, interviewed me, called the parents in, interviewed the parents.
My parents came in and the child and the parents, they had no recollection or any thought that he had meningitis.
He didn't even have a symptom.
That night, he came down with meningitis, and it was a severe case, and he didn't come to school the next day.
And so my family supported me because they knew that this was not going away, this gift.
And so I had to dedicate my entire life throughout it and help people starting from an early age until I started helping them out full time.
So that's kind of a little background about it.
It's incredible.
People tend to fear things that they don't understand.
And I don't think the average person truly understands what you're experiencing.
Do you ever get nervous about speaking out?
Were you ever scared about speaking out about this gift, you know, thinking that you'll
be burnt at the stake or in this day and age sued or whatever the today's version of being
burnt at the stake?
But, you know, you know, it's a it's a funny thing.
You know, when a mommy can't when a young mommy can't get out of bed and take care of
her kids and feed her children and she's been to a hundred doctors and to every clinic across the
country and you know and she's exhausted science medical research and medical science and she can't
function she can't feed her children she can't do her career then all that all that crap just gets
washed away we can't be worried about you know what people think we can't be worried about uh
any skeptics or anything i mean i was born a skeptic that's the problem with this gift is i
I was a child that actually, you know, was had skeptic in me, born born with it.
So I had to battle it by doing this and real in feeling and realizing that I'm also a skeptic and I've had to live with this gift as that.
But what happens is that what happens is, like I said, you know, all that stuff has to be just pushed up, you know, over to the side when people are suffering and they can't function.
They can't get what they, you know, they can't exceed and succeed in the way they want to because they're fatigued or they got symptoms and gone to doctor to doctor.
I mean, you know, I had someone say to me, hey, you know, you think you're so smart, medical medium.
You've helped so many people.
But what do you know that medical research, medical science does it, you know, Mr. Big Medical Medium?
And I'm like, you know, let's ask that question to the 200 million Americans alone that have symptoms with no answers.
Let's let's ask everybody out.
Let's ask everybody else.
What's medical research and medical science doing for chronic illness for them?
And I'm not talking about heart transplant.
And I'm not talking about removing an aneurysm out of somebody's brain with a robot.
That's incredible.
I'm talking about chronic illness.
I'm talking about everyday people can't function.
They got diagnoses of Hashimoto's without any answer of what's causing it until I published the book Medical Medium.
And, you know, lupus, no answers with lupus, all these labels, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, no understanding what's behind it.
All these young people, including lots of young women now, coming out of college, can't even function, can't even go to work, have to take three years off because no one knows why they can't.
You know, they don't feel good and have severe brain fog and memory loss.
You name it.
It's an epidemic right now from young to older.
And so, you know, why don't we really just be real about it?
Why don't we be honest and really look at it and say, hey, now something has to be done.
You know, I've dedicated my life to this.
and spirits offered those answers. And so I've been able to help tens of thousands of people
successfully. So yeah. So to be clear, what you're able to do is help diagnose what's really going on.
And then it's not that you actually do the healing, but you're able to share with people
a protocol, what they can do to get better. Well, you know, I work with doctors and I have
for over 30 years. So doctors come to me for answers and we work together and, you know,
globally, not just in the U.S., because doctors want people better and because, you know,
doctors actually dedicate their lives to wanting to want answers themselves.
And so I've been used in that that degree.
So I work alongside with doctors and help people that way.
My job is is really for spirit to just have the information, have to know, to discover
what's wrong with the person, what's going on, whether it's years ahead of its time or
not.
And I provide that information and I always have. And it's and it's always been accurate, fortunately.
Right. Can you tell us before we move on about getting smacked in the face with a rake?
Yeah. You know, when I was younger, you know, the ego was kicking in because I had answers all the time and it was nonstop.
Didn't matter where I was. I could be in the grocery store and just, you know, a tap on somebody's shoulder and say, hey, look, you've got this.
You've got diabetes. You've got a brain tumor. You've got do you know this?
you, whatever. And, and spirit always had the answers and it, and it came no matter what. So,
but what along with that came, you know, a sense of being slightly indestructible and having all
the answers. And so I remember being in my garden and I was pulling out some onions and my neighbor
came over and he said, he said, you know what? I don't understand. I can't believe it. My wife
went to hundreds of doctors, all the different clinics, and we couldn't figure out why she
couldn't walk. She couldn't walk. She had to be in a wheelchair and she was in a wheelchair for
years. And then we knew you knew something about health. So we asked you and you had the answers.
We don't know how it's possible. You had the answers. You said she was had arsenic poisoning
and it was from her. Well, no one can figure it out, but you knew she's better. She's walking.
How is that possible? And I said, remember this, it's because I'm right. I'm always right. I'm
never going to be wrong. Never forget it. There's never going to be a time when I'm going to be
wrong. I'm right. And that's all you have to know. And never forget it. I got up and I walked,
I walked a couple of feet. I stepped on a hoe, like, you know, one of those Reiki kind of hoe
things in the garden that you use to dig things. I stepped on it backwards. It flipped up. It
knocked me out. I was laying on the ground unconscious. Okay. And I started coming out of
it. I started becoming conscious, started coming out of that. And my neighbor was standing above
me just looking. And spirit said to me when I came out of it, spirit said, you remember this.
I'm always right. And you're always wrong. I'm always right. Never forget it. And you're always
wrong. And, you know, that was like a lesson at my early age, my early 20s for, OK, now it's it's
I have to realize, sure, spirit's the one that has all the answers. It's not about what I believe in.
It's not about what I'm doing. Spirit's got the answers. I always have to remember that.
Right. I love that story. So what's really great is you work with individuals,
yet with your book, you're able to address some common issues that you're seeing again and again.
Now, the subtitle of your book is The Secrets Behind Chronic and Mystery Illness and How to
Finally Heal. So let's talk about chronic and mystery illnesses for a moment. You target a few,
but let's start with autoimmune disease. What are your thoughts around that?
You know, there's something that everybody needs to know. There's something called a great mistake
that me and spirits say, and this is about being honest in the medical field. We have to be
a great mistake. Well, first of all, small mistakes, small mistakes we make, you know,
everybody makes small mistakes. Okay. It can happen every day and we make these small mistakes.
Do they really affect that many people when you make a small mistake? Probably not. Okay. And,
But what a great mistake is is something that affects millions of people, but generations before us and generations after us and our children.
It affects our children.
So understand that.
And the autoimmune confusion is one of the greatest mistakes of all time.
And if our alternative practitioners and conventional practitioners and professionals and scientists do not, if they're not honest and realize the great mistake autoimmune is, then we're never going to move forward.
And we're just going to be spinning our wheels for another three, four, five, six, seven generations.
And the great mistake is the body doesn't attack itself.
It's completely wrong.
It's misinformation.
I'm going to explain why.
and that autoimmune is not the body creating an antibody to destroy itself.
Like if someone has Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which means basically they got a swollen thyroid,
science and research doesn't know.
A guy named Hashimoto's 100 years ago figured out that somebody's thyroid was swollen.
That's Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
Absolutely ridiculous.
You have to understand that we still today don't know what's wrong until I publish the book
because spirit has the answers.
And Hashimoto's is caused by the Epstein-Barr virus.
Whether anybody likes it or not, it's going to come out down the road.
And Hashimoto's is caused by Epstein-Barr.
It burrows itself into the thyroid, causes thyroiditis.
Now, the point is, it's not the body attacking the thyroid, Jessica.
It's literally Epstein-Barr attacking the thyroid.
The body's just trying to actually clean up the mess.
And what happens with autoimmune is it's not the body destroying itself.
It's a pathogen.
It's a viral issue or a pathogen involved.
It's something else affecting the body and causing inflammation.
And until we come to that conclusion, 100%, until our medical professionals come to that conclusion, we're starting to actually.
And we're starting to make a lot of headway with this actually.
But until we really get there, we're not going to get to where we want to be.
And so here's the great mistake.
The great mistake is you go to the doctor, you get told you have Hashimoto's, you get
told your body's attacking itself, you walk out of there thinking your body betrayed you,
you think your body's attacking itself, destroying itself, annihilating your own thyroid, and
that doesn't help anyone.
Number one, it's wrong because it's not correct information.
Number two, it hurts everybody.
That's just one example.
Then you got eczema psoriasis, you got all the other different autoimmune issues, RA,
rheumatoid arthritis.
and that's not the body destroying itself. Inflammation markers do not tell if the body's
destroying itself. Inflammation markers means there's a pathogen involved. And until we awaken
and know what pathogens are causing what problems, and then we can let people off the hook and not
blame them. Here's how it works. If medical research, medical science doesn't know what's
wrong with you, you get the blame. You do. It's your body destroying itself because they don't
have the answers. And that's one of the greatest mistakes of all time. And I'm helping turn that
around. Spirit and I actually helping. And I got some great doctors, you know, along with us.
And we're trying to turn that message around. Thank God.
Right. And then when the doctors don't know what it is, but people are still craving an answer,
they come up with these labels like fibromyalgia.
Well, yeah, the label, the label is just the name for, you know, hey, look, we got a name
for the set of symptoms.
But we don't really know what to do about it.
We don't know what's going on with you,
but we got a name.
And, you know, because someone came up with a name,
that's great.
And it's not that the names are the worst thing in the world,
but they're really,
they're not everything what you think it is.
It's just a name for some symptoms
because it's still a mystery.
And then the other thing is,
here's another great mistake going on,
is genetics, okay?
We got thousands of years of our genes, okay?
We genes do exist. We have hereditary traits. We have the whole thing. But in the last 30 years,
chronic illness has not just doubled, has not just tripled, has not just quadrupled.
It has gone over 10 times more than it has ever been in history just in the last 30 years. OK,
you mean to tell me our genes all went bad in the last 20, 30 years?
Let me tell you right now, that's another. I almost made you laugh. That's another.
It doesn't take much.
Yeah, that's another great mistake going on because it's not genes that are going bad in people.
It's another blame game.
Hey, you got faulty genes.
Hey, you're no good.
Your body is no good.
It's falling apart.
You got faulty genes.
This is another incredible, incredible blame game to set somebody down the wrong path of healing, to not give them an opportunity to heal.
Because once you think your genes are screwed up, that's it.
Your body just doesn't heal like you want it to heal.
You have to get out of that mindset because it's not accurate once again because there's something else happening in our bodies.
It's another great mistake.
And here's another great mistake is mystery illness.
We classify mystery illness as, say, six children that are in Idaho that got sick with a fever and doctors didn't know why.
So they classified it as, you know, a mystery illness breakout.
out. But what's happening is fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, ALS,
lupus, eczema, psoriasis, migraines, Hashimoto's, thyroiditis are all mystery illness. They're just
not classified as mystery illness. They're a mystery illness. Let's, let's come on, let's get
honest. Let's get out of medical denial. That's why people are still sick because we can't even
get out of that denial to realize that that's mystery illness. And then my book explains a lot
about all this, about how it's mystery illness, what's really going on. And that's why I've been
successful as far as helping people. Someone said to me, oh, you just came out with a book.
You think you got the right ideas. I got a track record of tens of thousands of people healing
all the way going back decades. And that's just the bottom line from spirit, not because I'm a
great guy, but because spirit has the information. And that's the whole point is trying to get that
information to help people. Because let me tell you, when you're suffering, when you can't function,
when you don't feel good, when you think your body's letting you down, when you think you can't
get answers, when you think you can't live your life right, and you feel like you're letting down
your children and your family, I mean, it's hell. And I'm changing that is what I'm doing because
of spirit, not because of me, but because of spirit. We're getting the message out and we're
changing things. Well, I know that this question is going to have a complex answer, but why
is it that we're getting so sick? You said in the last 20 years, what was it, 10 times more?
What's been happening? One reason why is because the common Epstein-Barr virus, which was
mononucleosis, has mutated in over 60 different strains. So there's different variables,
different variations in different strains of that virus alone that are affecting people.
Epstein-Barr is responsible for multiple sclerosis. It's responsible for fibromyalgia.
that's responsible for rheumatoid arthritis.
And it has offshoots.
It has different mutations, different strains,
some more severe, some less severe.
And this is one reason alone.
Also, we have a heavy metal issue, basically.
And I don't mean rock and roll.
I'm talking about toxic heavy metals.
That's increased greatly,
which is also feeding viral issues and pathogens.
We got that.
Then we also have, you know, the pesticides have not gone away.
We also have stuff that's in our bodies that have been there even from our parents and passed on from our parents.
And it's not genetics.
It's toxins.
So we have all these different variables that are increasing greatly.
But the pathogen issue is one of the greatest.
Right now, we're at a difficult place with pathogens.
That's a big issue going on right now.
I want to talk about natural medicine for a moment because when I had a session with you,
And I know in your book, you talk a lot about natural remedies.
And there seems to be a movement back to going, going back to looking at nature as medicine.
Can you tell me just your overall thoughts around herbs and natural medicine?
I mean, you know, look, planet Earth provides things for us.
I mean, without it, we just, we don't exist.
So, and that includes medicine.
It's just the bottom line.
So, yeah, natural herbs are critical for health.
I mean, even homeopathy is a great thing.
A lot of people experience great things from homeopathy, herbalism, all of it.
And food, especially food, is critical.
It all matters.
And here's the deal.
There's different belief systems out there, okay?
There's different diet belief systems out there.
You got the people that believe in, I guess, the paleo diet.
You got people who believe in the vegan diet.
You got people that believe in, you know, which you got people that believe in in-between.
and different varieties of diets.
There's a new diet out every day.
And that's great and all.
But the key is this.
The key is this.
Knowing what food really heals a single condition, an actual issue.
It's why the second book that's coming out right now,
my Life Changing Foods book,
that book is about specifically what food does what
that could really help what symptom and condition.
that I got from spirit that right there matters it also matters to know what food feeds a virus
or pathogen so if you're dealing with Hashimoto's thyroiditis caused by Epstein-Barr if you're
dealing with something like that then you have to understand a food will feed that Epstein-Barr
or that pathogen a food will feed that no one knows what foods feed what meaning the bad things
out there. We're like, oh, stay away from gluten. It's bad for autoimmune. That's great and all,
but what does gluten feed that's creating your real illness? Because someone else can eat all
the gluten they want. They can eat all the pizza they want and they're fine because they don't
have something in them. They don't have a certain viral issue that happens to be out and about.
What I'm saying is the key is it's not about what belief system you have. Because I had someone say,
well, you don't like eggs, you don't believe eggs are good.
It has nothing to do with me believing eggs are good or bad or what diet.
It's just that eggs feed Epstein-Barr, which is responsible for breast cancer,
which is responsible for Hashimoto's, which is responsible for RA.
So you've got to take the eggs out of your diet.
That's an example.
So in natural medicine, yeah, herbs are great, everything else,
but food, it's about knowing really what herb does what, what food does what.
That's the key.
And I've been blessed by spirit to have insight into this, you know, or we're kind of just we're going blind.
I mean, we do it blindly.
So I've been lucky to have that, you know, and it's been such a blessing because I've been able to help people.
I have people that are here now, 25 years later, and they were they were 55, 25 years ago.
OK, could even walk.
Worse fibromyalgia possible.
Worse Lyme symptoms possible.
you name it and you know wheelchair bound and it was 25 years ago they're actually more agile
more athletic now 25 years later completely freed from every bit of it because spirit had that
advanced information 25 years ago for this person for this person to be here 25 years later and I
have lots of stories like that and because of spirit I think we also have to wrap our mind
around the importance of diet and herbs?
Because we still live in a culture where we think that modern medicine, and modern medicine
does have its place, but we automatically think that the prescription is going to be
more powerful than anything we can take.
Modern medicine is amazing.
Look, someone else said to me one time, well, you don't like conventional medicine.
Actually, that's not true.
I love it.
I think it's incredible.
You break your leg?
Yeah.
We used to just take two boards and then wrap it with twine and then you died.
I don't know why I find that funny.
You had a fever that night of 107 and you died.
Because you had a broken leg and you ran a fever and you had two boards attached with a vine.
That's what we used to do.
It's good to give a sense of humor.
It's actually really funny.
Look, and here's the deal. I mean, modern medicine is amazing because of what we can do. And the surgeons we have are incredible. They're artists, not just artists, they're craftsmen, they're craftsmen and actually some good surgeons out there.
and we need that because if you don't take care of your gallbladder and it explodes you better
have a good surgeon you know we so absolutely you know but there's but when it comes down to
chronic illness man that's a separate thing jessica that's a separate thing it's a whole
different ballpark chronic illness is a slippery slope because you know how the whole manifestation
thing's going on right now you know like we manifest things we attract things we you know
that whole deal, right? We want to attract good things in our lives. We want to manifest good
things in our lives. But when it comes down to chronic illness, you can't think you attracted
your chronic illness. You can't think you manifested your chronic illness. You can use
the power of that for positive thinking, for getting better, for keeping your body healthy,
for moving forward in your life, for meeting soulmates, for whatever you need to do,
but never use it against you thinking that you got yourself in this sickness. You got your,
so you're chronically ill because obviously you have bad karma. You're chronic, chronically ill
because you manifested. That's one thing that's also has to be separated. What I'm saying is that
that's how slippery the slope is with chronic illness. Right. Now you obviously have this
unique ability. What ability do we have at, you know, just the individuals to learn to listen
and trust our intuition to discover what's best for us?
I mean, is there something within us that can guide us
when it comes to making these decisions as well?
Everybody has a gift.
Everybody does.
Everybody has intuition.
They have a gift.
I've been lucky.
I haven't had to use my intuition because I've been enabled by spirit.
Spirit gives me the information, allows me to look inside people.
So it's not an intuitive thing.
Yes, I have my own intuition,
but my own intuition still isn't as powerful as some other people I know.
some other people that are powerful intuitives, unbelievable intuition. Your gut tells them
everything. Okay. I've been lucky, but yet at the same time, I'm envious of some of the people with
the most powerful intuitive gifts. I just, you know, people say to me, Hey, you just got it easy
because you get to hear it all perfectly clear. Um, and it's true. I get to hear it all fine.
But then some people, they don't get to hear it. So they develop their intuition and it goes far
And it's amazing. Everybody has a different gift and they have a different technique, a different use of it in their lives. They have creative gifts. I mean, it's amazing what people do. Everybody's got purpose. You know, so, you know, basically what can you do? Nature brings it out in everybody. So that's one technique right there. Nature brings it out in anybody, in everybody.
What I like is the sunset meditation that Spirit taught me.
Sunset meditation actually builds up your trust because we lose trust through life.
We lose trust when we're sick and we're going to doctor to doctor.
We lose trust through our lives in different ways.
People break our trust.
People let us down the whole bit.
So what happens is that the sunset meditation can bring your trust back.
What you do is you sit there at the time the sun is setting or you can watch the sunset.
You could be in your office knowing the sun is setting.
You just have to know why you're doing this.
If you know why the sun is setting and why you're paying attention to it, you can build up your trust reserves really fast.
You can build up your intuition.
You could clear things out in a way you never thought you could.
One of the things in the way of everybody's gift is trust.
you broken trust all through our lives in every aspect of it so what you do take some time out
maybe five minutes when the sun is setting maybe 10 minutes and you sit there and you relax excuse
me and you um got a frog in my throat this morning you sit there and you relax and you
be aware it's setting and as it's going down you're going to feel kind of sad you're going
to feel kind of like your trust is being broken again because it's the end of the day the sun's
going down it's like an old friend leaving you and what this does it's it's an instinct within
us it's a natural ability in us to build up trust the next morning you don't even have to be there
for the sunrise the next morning you could be asleep and as the sun's rising it builds trust
back into your being back into your soul back into your body and this is a great way of building
intuition. Now, you can say, hey, well, yeah, I've seen lots of sunsets. I don't know if it's
doing it for me. No, you have to know why you're doing it. You're doing it to rebuild your trust.
So you're being aware the sun is setting to rebuild your trust. It's one of the most powerful
ways of building your intuition, of building your, you know, everything. If you're into
attracting things for your future, if you're into creation, if you're into creating things,
this builds every aspect of this. It's the sunset meditation and trust is the backbone to all of it.
Oh, I love that. Thank you for that gift. I want to talk about fruit because you were just mentioning before about how there's always a new diet and there seems to be a movement where people are anti-sugar and they include fruit in that and they say to stay away from fruit. Can you tell us your thoughts about fruit?
Yeah, definitely. You know, if you take a ship, OK, so you got it. You'd say you're about to board a ship and the ship is going for a very long journey, you know, maybe a year or a year or more.
And you're going to be on the ship. OK. And there's barrels of food, barrels of food.
You're talking about any kind of food you like. And I'm talking about healthy food.
It could be grass-fed beef.
It could be free-range chicken.
Barrels of it.
Barrels of, you know, farm-raised pork.
You know, barrels of vegetables.
Barrels of vegetables, okay?
And you name it.
Barrels of quinoa.
I don't care what's on there.
Just barrels of food.
And you take that journey with a whole bunch of people.
Okay, by the time that boat reaches to the destination it's going to reach, everybody's going to be dead.
if there wasn't a lemon on the damn boat.
You have.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
If there wasn't a lemon on the boat,
you have to understand that.
And for some reason,
we've completely disconnected from this,
completely disconnected from it.
If there wasn't a lime on the boat
or a lemon on the boat,
because without that lemon
and without that lime, okay,
literally your body will just fall apart.
And it's happened.
We've learned that.
That's why in the ships,
you used to take a lime tree
and you used to take a lemon tree on the ship.
That was the only way to survive.
Didn't matter how much food you have,
how much canned food you have.
If you don't have a lemon on the boat
and you're on the water for a year, year and a half,
if you do make it to where you're going,
you're not going to be in that great of a condition.
I mean, in fact, you can commission people to do this
and trust me, they'll be like saying,
uncle, they'll be saying uncle after three months. What happens is that the body goes into serious
deprivation without a piece of fruit in our lives. And this is, this is something to really
understand. So people don't really go, you know, um, a hundred percent fruitless or calorie
restricted from a carbohydrate too long. Like they don't go too long. Like even the best,
the best people that say, look, I stayed away from grains. I stayed away from fruit.
I've stayed away from, you know, all carbs, they end up cheating somewhere because you need a
carbohydrate for the brain and nervous system. But when it comes down to fruit, when it comes
down to fruit, it's, it's above it all. It's above every kind of carbohydrate. It's above grains.
It's not the same thing as grains. So one of the misconceptions is, well, fruit has sugar.
So, you know, how does that, you know, sugar is sugar. No, there's different kinds of sugar,
Fruit, fruit sugar, fructose is bonded to phytochemicals that keep us alive a long time.
My great aunt is 99 years old because of blueberries, because of blueberries and apples.
She's 99 years old.
She'll say it's because of that.
So when we go into a fad and trend and we deprive ourselves of fresh fruits, we're going
to pay the price later because fresh fruits have all the phytochemicals that battle cancer,
all the phytochemicals that battle illness, all the phytochemicals that actually support
a nervous system in our brain.
It's all there.
I'm not saying you have to live off a fruit.
I'm just saying it's a really bad trend.
It's a mistake.
Another mistake is avoiding fruit altogether.
And it's all this fear around candida when people don't realize how candida works.
I wrote a candida chapter so people knew the truth about candida.
It's important for people to know so we're not lost.
And you've got to have fruit in your life.
It's critical if you want to go the long haul, if you want that longevity.
It's critical to have those antioxidants.
It's critical.
That's so good to know.
You talk about the importance of really figuring out what's going on and what foods can help
us and hinder our health.
but if you had the ability to speak to everybody on the planet and you were able to give them
one or two tips what would that be what are is there anything universal that you think everybody
should be doing yeah there's something universal spirit taught me and it's done it's done miracles
for people i mean you can check it out on like my instagram you can check it out on my facebook and
and what it's doing for people it's absolutely uh incredible and it's the celery juice you know we
love our green juices, you can do your green juices with different things in them. But if you
actually have a condition like a gut health condition, if you if you're someone out there
right now, and you have, you know, all this concern about leaky gut or candida or gut problems, or,
you know, bloating and gas, and, you know, and all these issues with the intestinal tract and
stomach, then you want to start incorporating celery juice, straight celery juice, and your
life will change over time. 16 ounces of straight celery once a day can turn almost every gut health
problem around, sometimes in one week and sometimes it takes some months, but it can start turning
problems around. And that is the miracle of celery juice because celery juice has a mineral salt
composition in it that's undiscovered by medical science and medical research. I talk about it in
my newest book coming up. And it's a different kind of sodium composition that doesn't exist
anywhere else. That sodium composition builds up your hydrochloric acid so that you break down your
food and it doesn't rot and feed bacteria and create SIBO and cause all these problems.
Celery juice is like a miracle. That's universal. You should take that information. It doesn't mean
you don't do your normal green juice once in a while or later on that day. You just have to do
a straight celery juice. I promise you this, it's going to help. It's going to help in so many ways.
And it's already happening out there for thousands of people. They're all doing their
celery juice right now. It's actually, it's a movement that's been created by spirit,
thank goodness. And people are getting their gut health better and taking it to a whole
different level. That's one thing that's universal. Another thing is wild blueberries.
not talking about cultivated blueberries don't get those confused you go to your
go to your freezer section and you get your frozen wild blueberries the most powerful food
on planet earth today the most compact meaning compacted with with tremendous amounts of
micronutrients phytochemicals minerals micromineral trace minerals you name it uh wild blueberries
the most powerful food there is incorporate those into your life start cleaning up your liver start
you know, recovering your nervous system. So you can get over a lot of those Epstein-Barr symptoms
like tingles and numbness, tinnitus, um, you know, vertigo. Those are all Epstein-Barr symptoms.
Those are late stage Epstein-Barr, vertigo, tinnitus, tingles and numbness, um, you know,
hot flashes, heart palpitations, all these different memory loss, brain fog, get those
wild blueberries in you so you can start getting rid of these symptoms. So that's a whole nother
thing. Plus wild blueberries actually, uh, really halt any kind of brain disease because
to the most powerful brain food there is in the world.
So these are two things that are universal.
That's fantastic.
Thank you for those.
So there are a few questions that I ask every guest who's new to the show.
The first question is, what is something that at the time seemed horrible
but ended up becoming a blessing?
For who?
Me?
For you.
Something in your life.
Yeah.
Wow, that's a really good question.
um you know uh look i didn't i almost didn't make it through um my teenage years because of this
gift you know this is this is an example right here i guess the most powerful one that i've had
in my life is um spirit told me when i was turning 13 that i was probably not going to make it and
spirit actually said that to me and said you're probably not going to make it and i said what are
you talking about spirit said that it's going to get really difficult because once you realize that
that you start growing up with this gift and you start hearing this voice which is spirit
and it's non-stop and it's happening in your life and you can't live that normal life you want to
live because it's just it just never goes away and you start moving into your teenage years and
you start realizing you can't do what you want to do in life you can't just go and live your dream
And, you know, my dream was to actually open up when I was like eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 years old.
I wanted to open up a restaurant like an egg shack and just and just cook scrambled eggs for people every day because people are happy when they have their eggs cooked just right.
So, you know, they love it.
They love when their eggs are cooked right.
You know, whether it's poached eggs or scrambled and whatnot.
So I want to have an egg shack.
So when I was like a kid, I was like, wow, wouldn't that be great to have an egg shack?
and just dreams my dreams could not come come true no matter what it had to be this i had to
do so when i started moving into my my teenage years it was a struggle to want to stay here
and and to make it through this and i fought for that i did everything i could to stay alive
to bypass the most difficult years and it was it was an unbelievable insurmountable unmeasurable
challenge and, um, and, and making through it and deciding to fight for it and stay here to help
others later on in my life is, is the greatest moment in my life, meaning one of the greatest
things that have ever happened that I was able to bypass that and get here. I mean, that's the one
that I think of first. Yes. Well, that's beautiful. Yeah. There's been other things too, but yeah.
Yeah. Well, we're happy that you stayed. Thank you for everything that you've shared with us.
I have a few other silly questions
well that's silly I think they're interesting
what is something that no one would know about you
unless they went to middle school with you
so like middle school Anthony
obviously you had this gift
anything else?
you know I mean
this is a really good question
what no one would probably know about me
is I used to climb the tallest trees
well people know that now I think
because I used to climb the tallest trees possible. And I used to carve messages to God.
And I used to say, you know, let's leave out the middleman spirit. I don't want to hear from him
anymore. I want to talk to you direct. And, and I used to carve these messages way at the top of
trees 100 feet off the ground. And, and until one day I slipped and was hanging off a top branch
there for my dear life. And then I realized I was defeated. Well, that was something that no one
knew about me in middle school, but I wasn't telling anybody that I was doing that. Look,
I really love nature. That's something people don't know about me. Really, really love nature.
It means everything to get that time to be around the woods, to be around trees, to be around
the water, to be sitting in the grass, to be looking at birds, to be looking at bumblebees
and bees and butterflies like that to me is really special. I really love, you know, I love gardens.
I love flowers. I love fruit trees. I love vegetable gardens. You know, these are the things that I
saturate myself in whenever I can, even though I don't get enough time at all to ever really do
that or enjoy it. But that's that's that mattered to me when I was young. And it matters to me now.
So you wrote in your book that it was hard for you to have fun as a kid because the voice
wouldn't turn off. What do you do now to have fun? Do you do you know, you talked about you
actually played heavy rock music to try to not hear that voice. But is there something you do now?
When I was 14 years old, I figured if I remember banging on an acoustic guitar at 14 years old,
and a family member of mine had acoustic guitar, I remember trying to play it at age 14,
and it was making noise. And I was like, whoa, it's making noise, which means that I could block
out Spirit from talking to me the more noise I make. And so I said, let me get an electric guitar.
So I got an electric guitar at like age 15 with an amp, and I was able to make a lot of noise.
And it was great because for that half an hour you played, Spirit couldn't tell you what's wrong
with anybody and their health or what's going on with the world. And so it was a, it was a very,
very short lived way out that didn't work, that didn't work at all. So that was done.
So yeah, so basically you, you can't make the voice go away. At least I can't. And I've tried
and there's nothing that can be done about it. But, but you know, when I go on the plane, you
know, I, I, the problem is what spirit is telling me what's going on with too many people or a
crowd or like being on the plane is I end up doing too many reads and scans along with it
because spirit insists that I also see inside the body with people. And then I start losing my
eyesight and then I start going temporarily blind. So I always have to have an assistant with me
wherever I go in case there's a crowd and then my eyesight starts to go. And, um, but what happens
is there's no vacation and there's no like, ah, go take a vacation. Oh, I'll go take a cruise.
I'll go live my life and go do this. No, it doesn't stop. It's different than other mediums.
Other mediums have their own torment and they have their own torture. Trust me, I'm sure. I mean,
I got, you know, got medium friends and they don't have it easy, but, but they do get some breaks.
That's what I hear anyway, that they do get some breaks, you know, and, uh, but in this situation,
now, you know, you can, even if you go play golf or something, even though I don't play golf,
if you go out and play golf, it's like, you're still going to know what's going on with everybody
on the field. Spirit's not going to stop with the information. So that's, that's the, I guess,
you know, some people would find this fun. I don't know. It's not fun.
So do you think that's one of the reasons that you love to be in nature? When you go to nature,
is it important for you to be alone? Absolutely. But if there's a plane flying overhead and I look
up at that plane, stop it. Really? Yes. And I look up at that plane, Spirit and I are going to be
working on figuring out who's in the plane and what's going on. Wow. That's incredible. Well,
Oh, hey, I mean, thanks for thinking so.
I mean, I wouldn't necessarily I see how that can be incredibly difficult.
It's just it's it's it's amazing.
And I'm I'm so happy that you were able to survive this.
I'm happy that you're channeling that now you're that you're channeling this energy,
this thing into writing this book and coming on podcasts.
And, you know, it's easier now.
I mean, it's not easy by any means, but it's easier now than it was, you know, in my in
my teens and in my twenties. It's a little bit easier now, you know, in some ways, because I
know that no matter what, this is what I'm doing. I can't stop it. When you're in your teenage years,
you're like, wait a minute, there's got to be something more than this. And it's that battle
of thinking, hey, now there's got to be something more than this. It can't be just this for the rest
of my life. It's that mental struggle, that conscious struggle of like, wait a minute,
This can't be just it.
That's what made it harder.
You know, now it's like I just accepted it, bottom line.
So, you know, it makes it a little easier just to accept it along, you know, the last
25, 30 years.
You just, that's it, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anthony, last question.
If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be and why?
That's a great question.
Yeah.
It would probably be what so many others have said with that question, if you've ever asked them.
It would be a bird.
Yes.
Do you ever get that at all?
Everybody, I ask this question at the end of every interview because I think it shows people's personalities.
And bird and dog are the highest by far.
Exactly.
Well, hey, you know, it would be bird.
Okay?
It would be bird.
To fly away from people so you can't read, so you don't have to hear the voice.
You can fly high.
You could fly away.
You could fly.
Yeah, it would be great.
That would probably be it.
And is there a specific bird?
Yeah, it would probably be like others have said, a hawk or an eagle.
Yeah.
I love it.
I don't want to be a robin.
Yeah.
No, it's good.
We have some beautiful, we just moved to Connecticut.
We have some hawks here that are stunning.
They're just such powerful birds.
So they're very strong.
So I think that's a great choice.
Well, Anthony, thank you so much for being with us.
I really recommend your book to everyone that's listening, Medical Medium Secrets Behind Chronic and Mystery Illnesses and How to Finally Heal.
Where can people stay in touch with you and just learn more about all the great work that you do?
Yeah, definitely.
I do live events where I do a light blast.
spirit has taught me since being a child that because i always wanted to help as many people
as possible so spirit taught me that if i ask spirit to provide light it'll come down in the
crown of everybody's head and run through their body and help ignite their healing process so at
the live events we make sure that spirit provides that light um la and november 5th we have an event
coming up check into it medicalmedium.com and my new book life changing foods coming out too
get a copy, you know, when you can, because I talk about what foods really do. It's not just
about 50 recipes in there. It's about what the food does with all the different symptoms and
illnesses and diseases, what every food really does for that, along with an incredible fertility
chapter and everything else in this book. So it's really about protecting us, our children,
this life-changing foods book. So medicalmedium.com, Facebook, Instagram, I offer free
information all the time. I offer the healing path, which is, we put hundreds of hours into
free information. So we want people to get what they need. It's all about getting what you need
out there. And that's what we provide. Awesome. Anthony, once again, thank you so much for being
with us. Bless your heart. Love you. And everybody out there know I love you. And I stand behind you
and I believe in you a hundred percent.
Thank you.
